AND IN THIS CORNER WEARING THE BLOOD STAINED GLOVE: Freddy Vs. Jason Star Jesse Hutch Rips The Mask Off Of The Gruesome Twosome, Revealing Secrets From The New Line Set, As He Talks About His Career From American Dreams To Cinema Screams! Interview Conducted By: Terry L. DuFoe Photos and Tape Transcription By: Tiffany M. DuFoe. Special Thanks To Vanessa Lengies For Help In Arranging This Interview. Special Make-Up Session Photos courtesy of Jesse Hutch. The Phantom calls New Line Cinema’s, “Freddy Vs. Jason”, the film with the longest gestation period in history. I heard rumors of the film back in 1994 when I asked Robert Englund about the possibility of the meeting of the horror titans. Talk about a bad double date! Speculation loomed like shadows surrounding Camp Crystal lake as a Hollywood gossip show added to the Elm Street mystery airing information that Leatherface will join the battle royal from hell! Robert Englund was quite uninformed about the project and when I posed the question directly to him he remarked, “I've never heard about Leather face. I can't remember if New Line Cinema owns the rights to Chainsaw Massacre or not. I know they released the last one, the one with Dennis Hopper. However, I do know they own the rights to Friday the 13th now, and I have heard that there is a script called Freddie meets Jason, but I haven't read it and I haven't seen it”. When asked if he would like to do something like Freddy Vs. Jason he replied, “I'd have to read it first. You know what's been wonderful for me, I only do Freddie once a year and sometimes a year and a half in between, sometimes even two years, and the making of a movie's only two months out of my life. Every time I go to do one of these, I meet all these phenomenal new people like Johnny Depp. I get to work with all these great kids, and these great special effects people, so these are all Nightmare on Elm Street alumni. So every time I go to work, I'm working with this great talent pool that's assembled by New Line. This is a great treat for me. I'm sure that New Line would assemble a great imaginative crew again and that would be the attraction for me, if the script wasn't ridiculous, you know”. Forward to present day 2003. After several script changes the Monster Mash, (or should I say Bash) has finally finished shooting in Vancouver, Canada and is still kept in a shroud of cinema secrecy guarded by New Line and their tight-lipped star Robert Englund. Not much is known about the plot because rumors breed on the internet like demons where even unused Freddy Vs. Jason scripts can be found at script-o-rama.com. My daughter Tiffany DuFoe works with actor Jesse Hutch on the set of NBC’s hit American Dreams where he plays American Bandstand heartthrob, Jimmy Riley. With help from Vanessa Lengies, (a fellow Canadian) who plays Roxanne on the NBC series we convinced or shall I say co-horsed Jesse Hutch, to fill in Videoscope readers with all the gory details. Called The Incredible Hutch, because of his loud green pants, we picked up the Hutch Hiker, (er, I mean the actor), for our interview & was joined by Freddy Vs. Jason’s Devon Weigel. Jesse told me about spies on the Freddy set who stole photos and home videos he had shot with Robert Englund & Jason replacement, stuntman Ken Kirzinger, which verified all the Freddy Vs. Jason buzz that surrounds the film. Jesse Hutch portrays Trey in Freddy Vs. Jason, a cocky teen who becomes possessed by Freddy Krueger, a character not unlike Jimmy Riley except that he goes from heart throb to heart attack thanks to suffering uncomfortable 16-1/2 hour splatter make-up sessions for the film. Here in his own words are his own Freddy Vs. Jason (Spoiler Alert!) secrets as we hear, Jesse Hutch’s very own personal Nightmare, as told to my wife Beckie, my daughter Tiffany and myself! Terry: I just want to basically start out by asking you about your background. You're from Canada, right? Jesse: Yeah. (Laughs.) Terry: It's a funny place, right? Jesse: Why am I not surprised that's the first question? No, it's always like a regular question. Even casting directors; I go in and they'll ask me right away, "So, you're from Canada, right? Do you know this person? Do you know that person? This person' s from Canada too. I just saw them twenty minutes ago! Do you know them?" And I'm like, "Uhhhh, maybe. I might've heard of them, but..." I guess it's a smaller world then we think it is and Canada and the United States are like... I've run into people from here that... Like we have a lot of friends here from Canada and I run into other actors from Canada. Actually, kind of an off story, but have you ever seen the television series called "Breaker High"? Terry: Yeah. Jesse: Yeah, well you know the bigger guy on there? He was like the comedian guy who ate all the time. I ran into him on the street the other day. Terry: Really? Jesse: When I first moved to Vancouver I saw him. I ran into him on Granville Island, and was when I just kind of first moved and just started my career. And I just saw him the other day again, like rollerblading down Wilshire, or something. I just saw him so it was kind of weird because what are the chances of running into him twice, especially in Los Angeles? Terry: Other Canadians I interviewed which were Scott Thompson and Kevin McDonald from "Kids In The Hall", they told me that in Canada, they felt that they didn't look at acting the way they do here. Do you think it's different; the way they look at it, the way they treat actors, and the way they look at the entertainment business? Jesse: In regards to the audition process, I would say yeah, just because in Vancouver we mainly have to worry about putting it on tape and making it look good, and make sense and also come across good. But at the same time we have to make it so that it technically looks good, so that when we send the tapes down here to the people in Los Angeles they can look at it and say, "Oh yeah, it makes sense." You know? They're looking at the person they're talking to. They're looking at the car the just drove by. But here, you go into the room and you don't have to worry about technical stuff at all. You just... they're like, "Okay, go, we'll follow you." You can walk in the door. You can sit in the chair over there. You can do what ever you want. And in that sense, it's a little weird for me to get used to because I'm used to being ready technically and knowing where my eye lines are and knowing where these objects are and knowing my world around me, but here it's a little more lenient I think on that. Terry: What was your first job as an actor? Jesse: My first job as an actor was on "Dark Angel"; an episode called "Gill Girl". I played a gill guy, or gill man, or a merman, or gill boy, whatever. They had so many nicknames for me it wasn't funny. The guys who did my prosthetics, WCT they're called, they're based in Vancouver, they did all the special effects make up and all the special effects and the prosthetics and it was funny because they also did my prosthetics for "Freddy VS. Jason" so there's one of the main connections between the two (my first job and once again this job) but it was the same team, the same guys, so same jokes, same stuff to deal with but they're such a great crew. They would make fun of me all the time on "Dark Angel" and in call me like... we'd come up with jokes all the time about like gill boy or gill guy or like there'd be some sort of connection somehow and after awhile it got really old, but basically the person who would win the competition was the next one who came up with the next best gill guy joke. But, yeah, that was my first job. It was an SOC. I didn't actually say any words. My character spoke in a like dolphin kind of language so that was weird because it was all input it by a computer afterwards. It's not like I was all, "Eeeeee eee" [makes dolphin noise]. (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) How did you feel about the prosthetics being glued onto your face? You weren't claustrophobic or nothing were you? Jesse: No. Let me say though, if you are claustrophobic you'd probably go mental. Especially if you have to do head casts. On "Dark Angel" I never had to do any head casts, but I did have to do a torso cast and they cast my hands, my arms, my legs and feet, and we ended up only using my hands and my torso. They did create a back fin for me that was originally made to pop out of my back upon will. They had hooked up to cables and what not. It was constructed to pop out of my back but we never used its because it was just to technical and difficult and it didn't fit into the scenes. But I had gills and they were made onto a spandex suit that basically they made off of my torso so most of the prosthetics was the gills, and they also had webbed fingers. I had webbed fingers, so every day we shot they would put brand-new webbing on my hands and it'd basically take them like two people, when it first started it was about an hour and ten minutes for them to kind of glue it all to my hands. But after awhile they got better at it and we narrowed it down to like forty-five minutes. But they would glue that on and it's like waterproof and it was just really awkward because, I mean who has webbed fingers first of all, right? I mean you never have to deal with that! So I used to fall asleep in my trailer with my hands on my stomach like this. [Waiter approaches] (Laughs.) That's funny. Real interview... "Grilled cheese? ...Yeah!" (Laughs.) Did you guys just happened to all order the same thing? That is really weird. (Laughs.) Terry: Let me ask you this, of course you do other shows like "American Dreams" and other things, but were you ever apprehensive about ever doing the make up thing, in the fact that maybe you might become someone like a Robert Englund and just have to do this all the time? Would you rather be known for yourself or somebody behind a mask all the time? Jesse: Well for "Dark Angel" I was fortunate enough that I didn't have to be behind a mask so you saw my face. You saw me for who I was but I got to do all the prosthetics. In "Freddy Vs. Jason" all the prosthetics were done because they made a full scale replica of my entire body so you're still going to recognize me because I never had to wear anything on my face, but at the same time I love doing the prosthetics. It's a totally different world and I can understand how you can totally hate it. I mean, I myself get edgy after awhile because your freezing cold and you're like barely wearing any clothes. You've got to stand like this. Lay down here. Sit like this. Don't move. Hold this facial expression. And the stuff is freezing. It's so cold and then it's like warm, and then it's cold. Later on when I show you some of the pictures I have from prosthetics... I have pictures of almost every step that we did so I can kind of explain the process of how that works in more detail. Terry: Now you did "Smallville" too, right? Jesse: Yeah, I did "Smallville" too. I had a reoccurring role on there. I've done two episodes in my character aged in the second episode I did. I went from like 17 to 98 or something in like five seconds flat, so who knows if I'll ever be on that series again. Terry: So what was that like? Aging? Do you ever do any show the does not involve extensive prosthetics other than "American Dreams"?! Jessie: I never actually had to do prosthetics on that. They actually casted a guy who they thought I would look like at that age. Which I pray to God that... no! (Laughs.) He was a nice guy, like super nice guy that they had play me and he was just, you know, quiet, but I mean I was like, "Oh come on. I don't look like that!" (Laughs.) Maybe I was just afraid. Terry: Wouldn't you be surprised if fifty years from now that's what you look like? Jesse: Yeah... No! (Laughs.) So I never actually had to do prosthetics for that because I was just replaced with him. But I'm not worried about the prosthetics ever. I think he would be neat to do a role like... I mean like there was Warf on "Star Trek", but you can still recognize him. I think it's neat though because there's also a lot of actors who are known for not wanting to do prosthetics so they might get a role and then they don't want to do prosthetics so pores 's kind of a problem. Terry: That's what I was saying, so you're very willing to do prosthetics? Jesse: Oh yeah, I'm totally open to do that. I think it's really interesting and neat. I mean, you get to... It makes you feel different to, I mean especially... It helps you get into character a little bit better. It freaks you out though when you see yourself from 360 degrees like real to life replica. It was the first time I'd seen that before. I'll explain more about that later when I show you the pictures. It's just wild how good it is and how close they can get to your actual details right down to pores on your nose, even like hair, eyebrows, everything, teeth, skin color. So, if it's kinda scary. (Laughs.) Terry: So, how did "American Dreams" come about? How did you get on that show? Jesse: Well, the pilot for "American Dreams" was originally scheduled to shoot in Vancouver and it was done there and a lot of the actors were brought down from the United States. There was a few of us and we all auditioned for it so I just went in and auditioned just like every other guy that was there. David Semel, one of the producers of the show and one of the directors, he's directing the next episode... What's the next episode called? I'm sorry; it's slipped my mind right now... Devon: "Where The Boys Are"? Jesse: Yeah, "Where The Boys Are". Thanks, Devon... But, he's directed a lot of episodes and he also directed the pilot, and I did my audition for him. He came down from L.A. and I did the audition for him and I did he entire scene dancing. Terry: Really? Jesse: And it was actually... The scene was like pre-written for me to audition. It was the scene in episode five where I tell her that I... "No, we're just a couple... Like a pretend couple. It's not real. Michael Brooks said this and that." And I break her heart and la la, everyone hates Jimmy Riley again. (Laughs.) But anyway, I did that audition dancing and he makes fun of me to this day. He'll be like, "Come on. Do your audition for me." I'll be like, "No, David." He's like, "Okay, I'll do it." And he starts to do it, so I'll join in just for the hell of it. (Laughs.) But the short end of the stick is that I just auditioned and I got a part and it was originally, I believe, supposed to be kind of Jimmy Riley is just in the pilot and then that's it, and I'm pretty sure that he was just supposed to kind of take a hike after that and disappear into the wood work. But... Terry: Aren't you happy he didn't? Jesse: Yeah, I was happy! I was like, "Wow!" You know? I didn't expect it to go anywhere. It was like a pilot so, it was work and I got to do more work and I got to meet other actors and work with a great director. Terry: We've always thought, like everybody, that Jimmy Riley was a little bit of a little shit. My daughter says that you say that Jimmy Riley is a good guy. Is that what you think? My daughter said that one day you were on set and you were like, "No, he's misunderstood!" (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Well, I think he's very borderline. I think he could very well likely go to the side where okay you automatically hate him all of a sudden. But I'm kind of keeping him on that line because it's more interesting. It's like, you're not sure which way he's going to go on any certain topic but I know that. I play the character like he is a nice guy, but he's very business oriented. And I think that if it were up to him, he would probably try and like be the next Michael Brooks or take over that job. He would be like, you know... I mean, who knows where it's going to go, but that's kind of how I view the character. He's more of a businessman. Terry: Is he a little vain to you? Of which you're not, you're very nice, but Jimmy Riley is very vain. Jesse: I don't really see him vain. I think it takes a little more energy to kind of crack him, and just because I think he's so business oriented that his career is important to him. He's a dancer on bandstand, and that's it. He's going show up to work on time. He's going to do this on time. You know, he's got to study his work, you know, and if he's got to date Meg Pryor because Michael Brooks said so and that's part of his job to get the chemistry right, then he's going to do it because that's his business. But, it at the same time, you know, he's got a little bit of feelings in there and he starts to realize that he does like Meg Pryor, not after breaking her heart a couple of times of course... (Laughs.) Come on, I didn't nearly do as much damage as Luke did in the Valentine's Day episode! Terry: Is it hard to play someone that much younger than you? Jesse: Not really. I think, especially in some way, I think Jimmy Riley is almost a little more... There are moments where he can like... especially in this episode we' re doing right now where I kind of allow him to break free little more and he's a little more carefree and funny in a way, but because of the clothes that he wears and like the persona that he tries to keep on bandstand, you know, stay like... Got to be proper and so it sort of helps me almost play him a little bit older but no, it doesn't bother me. And it's not really difficult to play that age at all. Terry: I see a little comparison here because you're going to be in the new "Freddy Vs. Jason" movie and in the very first Freddy movie was a young man named Johnny Depp and you're character on "American Dreams" kind of reminds me of the way he looked back then. Do you see a comparison? Do you think maybe that's why you got the role in the new Freddy movie or didn't it have anything to do with it? Jesse: I never thought about the direct connection with Johnny Depp. I have brought it up. Like some people are like, "Well, Johnny Depp started his career doing a Freddy vs... Well, not a Freddy Vs. Jason, sorry, but a Freddy movie." So I was like, "You know, I guess that's true." Terry: No pressure! Jessie: But, I mean, I... Terry: Well, you could own the Viper Room! (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) I mean, I don't really know where it's going to go in my direction but I mean, as to whether I got the role just because of that, I'm not sure. I think I'm just really good at playing a dickhead. Well, my character on "Smallville" once said, "I'm not a dick head in real life, am I?" (Laughs.) Devon: [Shoots sarcastic look towards Jesse] (Laughs.) Jesse: Ohhhh, burned by my girlfriend. (Laughs.) Oh no! That's it! I did good... I did good on Valentine's Day... don't print that. (Laughs.) Terry: Speaking of your girlfriend, I wanted you to tell me the story of how they surprised you on set with her. Jesse: The surprise on set? Well, it was all her idea to do show up and surprise me on set. So basically, we're on American Bandstand, there's like 106 extras roughly working, so bandstand is always like hustle and bustle, and people everywhere, and people going crazy and there's people like Wayne Brady and Ashanti showing up so there's always like more people than necessary there to take pictures and meet who ever... and obviously I knew it was my birthday, and some other people knew it was my birthday so I saw Vanessa Lengies who plays Roxanne Bojarski on the series and she comes over and I saw her whispering to the director and I just could tell that it was one of her scheme faces. So she starts walking towards me and I go, "I know what you're doing." And when I talked to her afterwards she thought that like I KNEW what she was doing but I didn't. I was like, "Oh, they're going to sing happy birthday." I was like, "All right, whatever." So everybody sang happy birthday and then Vanessa and Brittany Snow, they're both like, "Okay, we have a surprise for you. So hug us and you can't turn around and look yet until we say it's okay." So I don't and the director Oz Scott comes up and he's like, "You can't turn around!" And I like... Oz is a big guy so I'm like, "Oh man, I'm not going to turn around. You'll whoop me!" (Laughs.) So I'm just waiting and they're like, "Okay." So I turn around and a kind of like almost overlooked her for second because I like... because they said turn right around, so I turned right around and then I came back and I saw her and my jaw just hit the floor. I don't know how long I was standing there with this stupid expression on my face, hopefully not too long, but everybody else saw I'm sure, because I'd never been surprised like that. I didn't know she was coming. I had no idea and I was just talking to her on the phone like eight hours before that, and she was doing the laundry, and she was ironing stuff, and doing dishes... And I was just like, "Okay, well she can't come down. That's no good." (Laughs.) Sorry... [Whispers] The waiter! So I was just standing there and within those like... However long it was... I'm sure it was only like four second, I hope. Was it? Devon: I don't know, it seemed like a pretty long time. Jesse: It was longer than that?!? It was just... I didn't know what to do. So, like in my head I'm thinking, "No, my mind's playing tricks on me. They're really holding a birthday cake, and that's not her. I'm just imagining this." Terry: It was so long that most of the extras actually thought that you didn't know her! They were like, "Did they really bring in a stranger!?!" Devon: (Laughs.) Jesse: I like didn't know what to do, honestly. So I was just, like... in shock! And then I started thinking, "Ok, like maybe this is some sick joke... like somebody did the make-up and everything. She looks like my girlfriend!" (Laughs.) "Who are you really?!?" And then, it was her, and I was like, "Wow!". So it was the best birthday present I had ever had. Terry: Oh boy, look at her smiling! (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: I don't want to just call you 'the girlfriend'. Your name again? Devon: Devon. Terry: Devon? And you're in the business too right? What was it that you'd said you'd done in the business? You said you'd done Broadway, or plays? Devon: No, I've done a lot of theatre, and like "Shakespeare in the Park" and stuff back in Calgary. And I went to college back in Calgary and did their theatre program. Then I decided that I wanted to do film and that's my objective. Terry: So what's it like being the girlfriend of the American Bandstand heart throb? Jesse: Awww.. man... Devon: (Laughs.) Uh... he's not like... well, I don't know because it's weird. He's not really like Jimmy Riley in real life at all. He's not really heart throbby to me... not.. Jesse: Ohhhh oh! (Laughs.) Devon: Not in a bad way! (Laughs.) It doesn't really... I don't know. When I first met him, I didn't know he was on the show or anything. Then somebody mentioned to me he was on "Smallville", and then I saw it on TV and I said, "Oh that's pretty cool." Then he said he was on "American Dreams" and I had never seen it before. I watched it, and I don't know... I was impressed. Terry: Can I ask you if it bothers you when he kisses somebody else on screen? Devon: Umm.. (Chuckles), uh, it's strange because I haven't gotten to that point in my career where I've had to do that on screen with anyone, so I'm just trying to understand it. Terry: Payback is hell. (Laughs.) Devon: (Laughs.) So I'm always asking him questions, "So what is it like? Do you like... dah da da dah, etc.?" But, um, I don't know. I don't mind. It's work. It's not like... it doesn't mean anything, obviously, and Brittany is like 16 so... Terry: Well yeah, he'd go to jail so you don't have to worry. (Laughs.) Devon: (Laughs.) Yeah! Terry: A big part of "American Dreams" of course is the music. Are you a fan of the music from back then? Jesse: Oh man, I love the music. It's like... I still want to get all the soundtracks. I only have one just because I was studying some dance moves for one episode, but the last... actually, this next episode that's coming on this weekend, the soundtrack is amazing. I was just watching it and I was like, "Whoa!" (Laughs.) Wait, I didn't go "Whoa" (impersonating Joey Lawrence). (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) Yeah that's a no no. And my daughter told me, "Don't call him Joey. Call him Joe.", so... Jesse: No, I really really like the music. I think it's so neat. It's so exciting. People still like it, I mean, Johnny Rockets plays it all the time. You can kind of hear it in the back there. And it's... I don't know, it's really neat to have people come on the show who sing, like Ashanti and Usher, and they play someone else from that era and when I watched the Jackie Wilson thing, I really realized that sure, concerts now are neat and it's cool to see, and there's cable work and you know, fire, and the oohs and aahs but Jackie Wilson... like all that Wayne Brady (who played Jackie Wilson) did was what Jackie Wilson did. It was awesome! People were cheering! Sometimes the extras are hard to get riled up and they're like (sounds bored) "Yay yay..." Terry: Everyone but her (points to daughter Tiffany). Jesse: But I mean, this time, people were like screaming! It sounded like real people... people wanting to scream for him! It was just so neat to see the dance moves and it was just like a one-person act. So it seems like in a way, it has a little more energy than some of the music from today. I mean, I'm not dissing music from today, but I think it's really exciting to be able to go back and look at it. Plus the clothes, and the cars and how everything was. It was just a really neat period. Terry: Do you sing at all? Jesse: Uhh.... yeah, right. Terry: Do we have a CD in the future? Jesse: (Laughs.) I did a musical. I did "West Side Story" once and I sang in that, and you know, I sing in the shower, but that's pretty much it. Terry: And I heard you do a Jack Nicholson impersonation? Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) We were going to have you order dinner as Jack but I didn't know if it'd work out... (Laughs.) Jesse: Oh, that's because I was joking around the other day and I was going to do my lines as Jack Nicholson, and I was just kidding around. I like to do impersonations sometimes. Is that like a hint or something? (Laughs.) Terry: Well if you want to do it... Jesse: I... I don't know, I have to see if it's on right now. There's like one line I have to say when I do it. Uhh... oh, the waiter's coming back. (Laughs.) Oh he's good. Um, do we need anything? Terry: (Talks to waiter.) We're about to do Jack Nicholson. (Laughs.) Jesse: (Does Jack Nicholson impersonation.) Jack Nicholson. Well excuse me for asking. I was wondering if you had any salt and pepper? (Laughs.) That one wasn't as good, huh? Terry: That was good! Jesse: Was it bad? Terry: Unfortunately we'll just have to describe it in the magazine, or put it with an audio CD. Jesse: Oh yeah. You'll be able to put the audio CD in there. (Laughs.) Terry: So, knowing that you really do love the music of the era of "American Dreams", and it's probably a real thrill for you to be doing that. It's not just work for you. How do you feel about horror films? Are you a horror fan? Jesse: I, well, I can't say that I ever expected to be doing "Freddy Vs. Jason". It was just like it came out of nowhere. And they're trying to keep it, obviously, as secretive as possible, and you know, we were like sworn to secrecy... Terry: Really? Did you sign a secrecy agreement? Are you going to be fired now... Jesse: (Laughs.) I can't say. Terry: You might be killed by Chuck Barris or something. Jesse: Well no, obviously, plus as... I watch movies too, you know. I love movies, so I don't want to wreck it for people. So, I'm not going to tell anyone the end of it. Terry: You can tell us, we just won't print it. (Laughs.) Ok, well if Freddy and Jason were fighting in Vegas, and you were going to bet on it... (Laughs.) Who would you bet on? Jesse: (Laughs.) I don't know. I really don't have that much money! Terry: Who do you think is stronger? Jesse: As a personal character, I've always kind of liked Jason Voorhees, just because.. I watched them growing up, but to be honest I fell asleep during the movies... Terry: Really? Jesse: I've never actually seen a movie that has really really really scared me. I saw "The Ring" and that freaked me but it never scared me. I was like... it was just really interesting. So Freddy Kruger himself is a fairly funny guy at the same point. Very sick, but he's very funny. And this movie is very visual. The director of photography... just everything had to be perfect. Just perfect... down to candles, the rain, to you name it, the reflections and colors. I mean, there was one scene we shot in a living room and one of the girls was holding candles and she had to set them down on the table. We did that scene SO many times. I've never seen anyone do a scene that many times that much before, because the candle was like, too far left. Ok, now it's too far right. It's got to be perfect. It just had to be perfect. But I've seen... Terry: Would this be the director that was saying all this? Jesse: Yeah, the director of photography. The director was Ronny Yu (“Bride Of Chucky”) who recently did "Formula 51", and he was a funny guy too. He was pretty funny, but he didn't say a whole lot. He was just like, "Do this, this way. Ok, go." Then you just like.. go! But I never expected to be doing the movie. I don't know, it's going to be interesting. Terry: So you've seen other Freddy and Jason films though, right? Jesse: Oh yeah. I watched them all to try figure it all out. Terry: But you weren't sleeping during all of them right? (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Freddy gets his power from that. I better be careful! Um, I lost my train of thought... Yeah, perhaps you can re-direct me. Terry: Would you say that watching any of these movies... of course they've been out for a while. You obviously were young when they started coming out. Jesse: Yeah. Terry: Did any of them ever give you nightmares? Jesse: No. I'll be honest, no. Terry: So did you think they were kind of funny then? Jesse: Yeah, there were some parts that were pretty funny. Some of it was just... like some of it is just really absurd. I think in a way though, this one will be a little bit different because I think we have a little bit more budget then any movies in the past. I mean, who knows what they wanted it to be when it originally started, right? It was like, "Ok, lets do this movie..." Terry: You wouldn't happen to know what that budget would be would you? I know that's not your end of it, but... Jesse: The budget... no, I won't even try and quote it just in case I'm off by a lot. Terry: And it's New Line right? Jesse: Yeah, it's New Line Cinema. But I watched the dailies and I got to see some of them. And I watched some of the stunts and the stunt work that was done. It's just amazing. Some of the stunts I saw were just so neat. I was like, "Wow!" It just kind of blew me out of the water, you know? So I can't wait to see that stuff. I can't wait to see the cables removed and I can't wait to see some of the special effects. I think it's going to have quite a following. That's for sure. Terry: Well it already does! Well it's been rumored for a millennium! They've been talking about it for a long time. I guess it started out as a comic book. Jesse: Yeah. Terry: When did you start hearing about it? When they offered you the job, or had you heard the rumors previous to that? It's been talked about for a long time. Jesse: Well, you know how there's always rumors. There was rumors of "Terminator 2" forever! I mean, sorry, not 2, four... are we at four now? What are we at? Terry: Yeah. Jesse: It's like "Rocky". Anyways, I guess a rumor's a rumor, but you don't really believe it until you get the sides in your hand, you know? So eventually, just one day they're like, "Hey, you're going to audition for it." So I read for it in Vancouver and they brought me back in for the call back and they wanted to see me, but I was just leaving to come down here to work on another two episodes of "American Dreams". So, I was like, "Can they meet me in the U.S. because I have to go there!" They said, "Yeah." so I met the director down here and I went in and read for him. He was just being himself, Ronny Yu. I walked in and he's like, "You're Canadian right?" I'm like, "Yep." He's like, "Are we gonna hear it?" I'm like, "Nope." He's like, "Ok, go ahead." I did the audition and he gave me a few directions. I changed it the best I could to match what he wanted and my character in this is like an extreme... he's extremely rude! Well, rude's an understatement. He's just so mean. (Laughs.) Terry: So he makes Jimmy Riley seem like a nice guy? (Laughs.) Jesse: (Chuckles.) Jimmy Riley would definitely be a nice guy! Terry: So he could kick Jimmy Riley's ass in other words? Jesse: I don't know. I think Jimmy Riley works for the mafia. (Laughs.) It's very possible! A spin off show... no I just want to use a Tommy Gun! (Laughs.) No, but no, he's rude to her... to his girlfriend big time and he's probably the rudest character I've ever played but at the same point, I guess if people really hate him, then I did my job properly. So, I guess that's a good thing. Terry: Has anyone ever come up to you on the set or on the street and said, "Man you're a jerk." or anything? Because often they think you're the character. Jesse: Actually, on "American Dreams" sometimes... like, I had... I can't remember who she was. I don't remember her name but one of the extras came up to me and she was just mad at me! Terry: Really? Jesse: She was like, "Why'd you do that to Meg Pryor?!? You made her cry!" And I was like, "I, uh... I'm sorry. It was written in the script. I didn't hurt her feelings for real." She was like, "YES you did!" And I was like, "No, honestly! I have no pull over that! You realize that I'm JESSE right?" and she's like, "Yeah, whatever!" (Laughs.) And like all day I'd be working, and you know when you get that feeling that someone's watching you? I'd get this feeling, and I'd peak over my shoulder and she's sitting on the stands like this (glares). I'm like, "Oh God!" (Laughs.) Terry: Now that you get torn apart in the new movie, are people going to be coming up to you give you band-aids? (Laughs.) Jesse: I don't know! (Laughs.) Terry: We're not your normal magazine. You can see that by now! Now the film you said was filmed in Canada, but I take it that the film takes place in the United States? Is the setting supposed to be the U.S.? Jesse: It actually takes place right on... I just hit a mental block again. What was the block that... Terry: Crystal Lake? Jesse: There will be some stuff at Crystal Lake. Terry: What about Elm Street? Jesse: Most of it... some of it takes place on Elm Street. Yeah. A lot of it. So, it takes place in the same area. (Waiter comes up and asks if we need anything.) Terry: I'm going to interview you next so just stick around, and tell me what you've done. (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Do we need any boxes? Terry: No, we're still eating. Jesse: No, we're still eating. Terry: We're fine, thanks. Jesse: (Does Jack Nicholson impersonation again.) Go sell crazy someplace else. (Laughs.) I should've quoted Jack again. (Laughs.) Terry: So had Ronny Yu seen any "American Dreams" footage that you know of? Jesse: I... I'm not sure. He may have watched the tape but to my knowledge, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Unless, he contacted my agency here in the United States and got a tape from them. Terry: So what of the story can you tell us, without having people come after you? Jesse: Uhhhh... that's touchy. Terry: Inquiring minds want to know. Jesse: I feel as if there's someone watching me right now. (Laughs.) Terry: You work with my daughter. You're among your friends here, just you know... It's not like we write for a magazine or anything like that. (Laughs.) Jesse: It's... (Laughs.) Terry: They'll never read the magazine! Just ignore the tape recorder. It's not there! Jesse: I wasn't even in the movie! This is great. (Laughs.) Terry: I'll just send a copy of the magazine to Robert, but he won't tell, so it's ok. Jesse: Well, basically there's like a group of kids, and I'm amongst those kids.. Terry: Wait, I have to change the tape, the recorder turned off! (Changes Tape) Terry : Ok, you were telling us what you could tell us about the plot. Jesse: Oh yeah. Yeah, right, the plot. Sure. Terry: You're in the film, "And that's the plot!" ( Terry Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) That's it. (Laughs.) Ok, so, basically there's a group of kids and Freddy kind of intervenes and Jason somehow is brought back into the picture through Freddy. Terry: Do you know exactly how? Because Jason is in hell right now. Jesse: Yeah. Yeah. I'm just trying to... ok, well let's take a quick look at the character, obviously. Jason, he never sleeps. You can't really kill him. So, there's a problem right there because you're thinking how's he going to die? Or how can he die? Or WILL he die? Will he? Dun dun dun! (Laughs.) But, then Freddy Kruger obviously, he got banned in the last movie didn't he? He was like sent back... Terry: He was sent back to hell. Jesse: So he was sent back to hell, so... Terry: In the end of "Jason Goes to Hell", the last Jason movie, Freddy's hand... Jesse: Yep! Terry: His hand comes up from the ground. Jesse: So you need to figure out how... how can Freddy get out of hell and how is Jason brought out of hell as well. Terry: Right. Jesse: So, Freddy somehow manages to do it, and he pulls Jason out. Jason starts to go around and he just starts kind of getting revenge on people because he's still trying to get revenge for what happened to him when he was a younger kid, right? Terry: Right. Jesse: So he's going around and he's getting all of this revenge, and people think that it's Freddy though so there's a little misunderstanding going on there. And (Looks at Beckie who looks puzzled)... look at the look on her face! (Laughs.) Terry: She's just trying to put this all together, and it's like, "Ok..." (Laughs.) She's just going to make up her own story! So have we got Jason inside Freddy or is Freddy inside Jason? Jesse: Exactly! Well, you know what, when I read the script it was very hard to visualize. Terry: Yeah. Jesse: So it was hard to visualize, but once we actually started to shoot it... it's like, you need to see it because even if I had the script here and I tried to read it to you, you'd still be like, "What?" But when you see it, then it'll make sense. Then you'll be like, "OH!" Terry: I heard Freddy manipulates Jason by impersonating Jason's mother? Is that in the script? Jesse: Yeah. Yep, that's very true. Umm... Terry: Also, it's Freddy's territory because Freddy comes from there anyway, right? I mean, all his victims go back to hell with him, don't they? So you would say that Freddy is the dominant one? Jesse: Freddy pretty much... Terry: Sounds like they're married doesn't it? (Laughs.) (To Devon) Are you watching this weaseling going on here? (Laughs.) So you would say that Freddy's the dominant one?... Jesse: Freddy is at the beginning I guess, you'd almost see him as the puppeteer, and Jason doesn't really realize that at this point. So he starts going around, and he's doing his thing and people are starting to think it's Freddy. They don't even know who Jason is because obviously there's never anyone left alive to know that it's Jason Voorhees. Terry: Right. Jesse: So, everyone is blaming Freddy, and as you know, Freddy gets his powers from what? Terry: From fear and nightmares.. Jesse: Ok, so we got some of that building up now. So somehow, through this fear that is being built by Jason, Freddy gets more and more power, and he's able to manipulate more and more people and he starts to go after these kids, because they now live in the Elm Street home. There's still, you know, some of the older characters that are like joining... I'm trying to remember their names exactly. Who's... Terry: I take it Heather Langenkamp's not back, right? She was the femme fatale of the original movies. Jesse: No, I don't think so, no. Who were the two guys sent to the insane asylum? Terry: I couldn't tell you their character names off hand. I know who you mean though. Jesse: Them two though, they're in the plot line. Terry: Really? Jesse: They're trying to, you know, figure it out, but they're crazy according to everyone else. But they sort of actually catch on and they kind of know what's going on. So after a while, eventually Freddy and Jason are kind of full steam ahead, going to work. Just, people are getting slattered... slattered, that's a new word! Splattered and slaughtered and cut up and stabbed and you name it! Terry: So is there any point where they turn on each other and start fighting each other? Jesse: Yeah, eventually somehow this group of kids manage to make Jason realize what's going on, and it's definitely not the easiest thing in the world because he just wants to kill everyone and everything, and Freddy doesn't care who gets killed as long as he gets the power. So, eventually they managed to turn these two guys against each other and then basically, all hell breaks loose. Terry: And who did you say won again? Jesse: (Laughs.) Uh, I don't remember saying that. Terry: (Laughs.) Didn't you say that? I thought you did! Yeah! Jesse: Umm... (Laughs.) Terry: Who would you want to win? That's not saying this person necessarily won, but who would you want to win? Jesse: Who would I want to win? Terry: Or, it could NOT end and continue on. Jesse: I don't know. It's not... I think it's more interesting for me to watch and see who WOULD win because I don't really want to be the one to make that decision, because it's a bid decision, and there's a lot of other people watching... a lot of fans. If you went to fans and asked them who you would want to win, I'm sure it'd get like every... well, it's either Freddy or it's either Jason, so... I wouldn't really be able to pick one. I like Jason, but I also like Freddy because now that I've met Robert Englund... it's like, Robert Englund is such a nice guy! Apart from the character, he's like one of the nicest guys you could ever meet, and he's hilarious! But his character is just WOW! Like, Robert... Freddy? I don't get it! Terry: If you could be a real monster... I ask these crazy questions... if you could be Freddy or Jason, who would you rather be? Jesse: (Thinks.) Terry: Who gets the most chicks? Jesse: (Laughs.) You're trying to get me in trouble man! (Laughs.) I don't know... I still like Jason Voorhees more, probably because I was a goalie growing up, and I used to have one of those goalie masks, like the older ones, and I just always liked the goalie mask. I thought it was really cool. Plus, I mean, he never sleeps, and I always thought it be cool to never have to sleep, because I think it's a waste of time. Terry: It is! Sleeping and going to the bathroom! Jesse: I mean, all the stuff I could be doing while I was sleeping. So imagine if Jason were alive right now, and he worked for... I don't know, IBM or something, he could just stay up and work for 24 / 7. Terry: Yeah, maybe at Kinko’s! (Laughs.) He could shred documents. (Laughs.) Jesse: He could shred documents! (Laughs.) He'd never have to sleep. So that whole kind of idea was always kind of neat to me. Just that he never slept. He never really... he doesn't have a real heart. And no matter what you hit him with, or burn him, or anything, he's not going to die. He's almost this unstoppable force. But Freddy kind of has a little bit of a weakness whereas if you're just like, "Ok, I'm not scared of you.", he's kind of powerless towards you. Terry: Now, Wes Craven was credited as a writer. He's not involved with directing at all? Jesse: No, I don't believe so, no. Not at all. Terry: Has he been on the set? Jesse: I never saw him. Terry: Really? Jesse: He's credited for writing a lot now and, I mean, just his name sells a lot of things but I'm sure that he definitely had something to do with the writing because it all ties into all the old ones. There's some flashbacks to older ones. So there will be original footage from all the old ones, but I believe they're going to remaster it. Terry: Now Sean Cunningham was more on Jason end. He was more like the Jason mentor and the one that brought the whole Jason thing about. Was Sean Cunningham involved at all? Jesse: I couldn't tell you. I mean, perhaps in some round about way, but all I really get to see is what's on set and who's kind of around that. I no idea as to who's sitting down here and who's writing. Terry: Tell me about meeting Robert Englund. Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: I know Robert. There's got to be stories there. Jesse: Actually... Terry: If you've got stories, please tell them... Jesse: I had special effects make-up that had to be done for a series of shots. (To Devon) You were actually there. Devon: I was. Terry: Oh, you were there? Jesse: I didn't know that she was there! Devon: I was an extra on "Freddy Vs. Jason". Terry: Oh really? Devon: And we had never met. Jesse: This is before we met. Terry: Oh, before. Ok. Jesse: And she saw me... Devon: I kind of saw him and I was like, "Oh yeah, whatever..." Jesse: And I like... Devon: And then I met him later on... Terry: So you thought he looked good all bloodied and stuff! Devon: Oh he had like black crap in his mouth, and he was all gross. One of my friends pointed him out and was like, "Oh I know him. Come meet him." I was like, "Oh, I'm so tired!" Terry: That's what you will look like if you cheat on her! (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: So you were an extra on the movie? Devon: Yeah. Yeah, I was in the corn field scenes. There were scenes in a corn field, near the end I think. Jesse: Yeah, the corn field scenes were like... Devon: Everything's on fire. Jesse: They were wild! Terry: What happens in the corn field? Devon: It's like a big rave. Terry: A rave? Jesse: Yeah, there's a big rave sequence happening. And everyone's kind of dancing and partying. The girl who plays my girlfriend, she's hammered and everyone else is getting hammered, and basically I... Jason shows up and he just starts killing people basically. There's actually one point where there's this guy that has all these glow sticks attached to him and he's trying to make out with the girl who plays my girlfriend while she's unconscious and drunk. and she's starting to be sucked into the dream world of Freddy because of me so my character is actually... what's the word I'm looking for... inhabited, no. Devon: Possessed? Jesse: Possessed! That's the word! I always forget it. I'm actually possessed by Freddy at this point and he's inside me. So I had special effects make-up, and I'm pretty much dead at this point. Terry: So in a way, you almost get to be Freddy? Jesse: In a way, I am Freddy, yeah. I think there's one point in the scene that I do where they're going to slowly change my voice to his, but I'm not sure what they're going to do with that yet. So, basically I lure her away and she passes out, and she's with me in this dream world, and then I turn into Freddy Kruger. As she's in this dream world this guy kind of jumps on top of her, and he's sick and twisted. This guy's basically trying to make out with her while she's passed out and Jason Voorhees jams this pole through his back and picks him up! And he's still alive and he's freaking out and flailing his arms... Terry: Yeah, I guess he would be! Jesse: And he just whips him through the air and the way that they described it is that he's supposed to look kinda like a shooting star because he's got all these glow sticks, and he just goes flying over this corn field, and he just kind of lands into the corn. (Chuckles.) So it was really neat to see the shots for that because they had the stunt guy cabled up and the jammed this fake pole in his back. It makes the guy that plays Jason, his name is Ken Kirzinger, he looks so like... this guy is NOT small. I mean, when I'm standing beside the guy that's playing Jason... well, I mean, you know Jason's a big guy... Terry: Right. Jesse: ...but this is a stunt guy from Vancouver and his shoulders have got to be at least like, I don't know, two feet or something almost, and then he's like this tall (makes high motion with his hands) beside me. Nicest guy you'll ever meet. Like super nice guy. Big smile, and like, "How you doing? You want me to grab you something from the Kraft table?" (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) "The whole Kraft table please!" Jesse: So it's just funny to see because they had him cabled up, and he just jams this pole in him and lifts him up with one arm. He just looks so buff! And he just whips him through the air, and this guy's like, "Ahhhhhhhhhhh!" (Laughs.) And he's just this glowing raver, but of course no one's going to feel sorry for him because they're like, "Well, he was trying to make out with that chick. Good he's dead. I'm glad!" Then, Jason ends up on fire, of course. Terry: Wouldn't be the first time! Jesse: Wouldn't be the first time, yeah! So, he just starts running around on fire, and then other people end up on fire, and he's throwing people, and like, stabbing them. It's just crazy and he goes all psycho, and that's pretty much the whole raver sequence. It was really neat because we used a real corn field just outside of Vancouver, and I had no idea what to expect. Terry: Now the part where you become possessed by Freddy, did you talk to Robert? Did he give you any inspiration for doing that, or any advice? Jesse: No, no, not really because it was already written what I had to say and what my actions were, and I kind of already understood. If I needed anything else, I would've asked him but, prior to your question, sorry, we didn't really answer that... Terry: Yeah, we were talking about you meeting Robert? Jesse: The special effects make-up that I had for that corn field was... two people, it took them roughly two hours to do the special effects on my face alone. It was all air-brushed, and Freddy, of course, Robert Englund has to have his prosthetics put on. So, he was getting his prosthetics put on and I was just a chair down, and we're the only ones in the trailer. So, of course you know, he's a funny guy, obviously. Terry: Absolutely. Jesse: He's just hilarious. We were just, you know, talking and I can't really look at him because we have to look straight ahead can't move, and he can't really look at me so he's looking straight ahead. Somehow we get on the topic of... you know that show where people get surgery done to them, whether it be like a breast implant or getting an... Terry: Like in L.A.! Jesse: (Chuckles)... getting an ear transplant. Yeah, like in L.A. (Laughs.) All of a sudden, somehow, we get on this topic and he's like, "Dude, I was watching this show last night..." He's like, "It was sick man! They ripped this lady's chest open and they're doing breast implants, right..." And I was like, "I watched that last night too man!" And he's like, "Was that not sick?" I was like, "That was SO sick!" (Laughs.)We started going on about it, and then we just started hanging. Terry: So he's in horror films and he thinks that plastic surgery is gross, right? (Laughs.) Jesse: Oh, well come on! Have you seen that show? It's sick! (Laughs.) So you can just imagine. I mean, he's a funny guy. You know, we're all sitting there getting high off these paint fumes because I can't leave for two hours so everybody's like (Makes deep gasping noise and laughs.) Everybody is just laughing, and everybody's having a great time! We're talking about breast implants and he was just such a nice guy. I was like, "Great!" I also got to talk to him and we joked around as well when I had to do a full body digital scan. For one scene, my body from here down, my body is going to be handled by computer because I can't physically do it. Terry: What happened, did you explode or something? Jesse: No, actually there will be one scene where I'm walking towards my drunk girlfriend and my neck's actually broken, but I'm still kind of holding myself together. I did as much as I could with the walk but I had this whole sequence worked out with the director because it was all supposed to be computer animated, but I said, "Well give me a chance, and let me try to do as much as I can, because the more I can do, the better it's going to look, right?" Terry: My man! That's great. I applaud you for that. Jesse: Thank you. So he's like, "Ok, well your neck's broken, and your leg's busted, and every time you step on it, it's going to snap, and you're going to fall down, but you catch yourself so if you can... whatever. Come up with what you can do." So, I said, "Ok." and I'm in my trailer between scenes and I'm like, "Ok, my neck's broken. Alright, I can imagine this. I broke my neck in my former life." So I'm trying to imagine, and I worked out this sequence where I actually got it to look pretty good with holding my own head up, and my body, I tried the best I could, but my spine's supposed to be snapped at this point, and I can't do that. I can't imagine. I'm trying... I'm trying to pretend. I'm like, "Ok, I had a bad accident. My back's broken. How do I sit? Do I just fall on the floor?" (Laughs.) Come on, that's not going to work. So, anyways, I did what I could do, and basically I have to hold my head up, do my dialog, try and do this walk like one leg's broken, so I'm kind of falling, and out of frame, and I can't really control my speed. I'm walking towards her, and I'm freaked out at her. I'm just like, so pissed, and she's drunk. She's like, "What's going on?" So they did a computer scan which took quite a while actually. They basically take photos of like, here (Motions to a section of his torso) and they take photos all the way around. Terry: Right. Jesse: Then they move down , 360, down, down. Then they do top to bottom, and then they do your face separately again. You wear the clothes that you're going to be wearing for that scene, and I did that, and Robert Englund also had it done, and so did Ken Kirzinger (Jason Voorhees). So there were only three of us total in the film who had this process done. It's really neat. I'm supposed to go in and see it actually, but they showed me a few tests. It's really weird. I not only got to see myself in my prosthetics, real to life prosthetic replica, but I also got to see myself digitally replicated because they had already taken previous footage of me that we'd shot and made a template. And he just presses enter on his laptop there and you see me freaking out on the screen, and I'm like, "Whoa! Where'd you get that?!?" He's like, "We took it from some previous footage." and I was like, "Wow!" So, it's just neat, and rumor is that my head may actually spin 360 degrees around but that was just... they're not sure if they're going to do that yet. Terry: Oh so you could do "The Exorcist" next. Jesse: Possibly! (Laughs.) It was also neat in a way just because I was one of only three of three to have this done and the only two other people were the lead characters! So I kind of felt special, you know, for like a second. Terry: So Robert Englund is still in very good humor? Because he always was a prankster. Jesse: Oh yeah. He's hilarious. And it was actually the first... I mean, I've only seen him in photos without the prosthetics on so it was neat to see the real Freddy. He doesn't actually look like that at all! Terry: Does the make-up still look like the old Freddy, or has it evolved and changed any? I don't know how many of the movies you have seen, but he looked quite different in the last one which was "Wes Craven's New Nightmare". Jesse: Yeah. I think it kind of follows the older ones a little more, the burnt look, you know? They wanted it to look good, so all the prosthetics were pretty much brought in. I think they had some of the originals, like Jason Voorhees' mask was original and they replicated that. I think they're trying to go back to the original old look, and the hat... and I got to wear his hat! Terry: Oh really? Jesse: And like the sweaters! It was really neat. And the claws, they'd have the real claws, and then they'd have the fake ones... (Notices Tiffany and Terry exchanging a look.) What? Terry: Oh, we brought something to take pictures with. Jesse: Well, when I first went in to do my fitting... Terry: He doesn't trust us. He was like, "What?!?" (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Oh now, come on, I saw some crazy stuff on this set! I mean, especially at WCT, the prosthetics company because they... well, I'll tell you this. The one... Crystal Lake... they re-did Crystal Lake, but it's a dream sequence. It's part of a dream sequence and they did all the prosthetics for it, and everything looks the way that it used to except it's all made out of human body parts. It's just visually... I saw the story boards, and it was just wild! The storyboards alone were colored and computerized! I was like, "Ok, if you make it look like THAT, people are going to crap themselves when they see this movie!" It's true because in the swamp they made prosthetics heads, and they float like rocks in the water. The trees are made of intertwined body parts. Terry: O-kay! Jesse: The water is blood and it's just... some of it is just wild. There's one point where to actually see the description I just gave you, I believe the lead opens up a closet door and all of a sudden this water pours out and everything kind of is removed around her and she's standing in like, this pond, or something and just visually it's kind of scary! (Chuckles.) Terry: Is there nudity in "Freddy Vs. Jason"? Jesse: Yeah, unfortunately. I didn't actually see what was shot but I heard stories about it. Terry: Well you didn't have to do any nudity, right? Jesse: I have a scene where my girlfriend and I are in the bedroom, but there's no nudity. Terry: Alright. Jesse: It's a very short, short clip. Jason pans past the doorway and there's supposed to be just a clip of his P.O.V. seeing us. Terry: I ask because nudity has pretty much been a staple of the Jason movies. Jesse: Yeah, I'm afraid they still kept that. I mean, it's not really something that personally in my life I really respect, but I can't do anything about it, in this movie. All I can do is in my own career try and make the decision that no, I don't want to do it. And, I didn't want to do any nudity, so I wouldn't do it. I know people were hired for nudity, and there's a few scenes that definitely follow that line... (Waiter interrupts.) Uh, waiter! (Laughs.) So, I didn't really enjoy that part of it and I'm glad that it never had to go any farther than it did. Terry: Well, I respect you for that. Jesse: And, I don't want to do it ever. Nudity is just not my thing. There's a lot of unnecessary nudity in movies today. I understand that that's a selling point for them, and I know that they're going to use it. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. Terry: Right. Jesse: And it doesn't mean that I have to do it, so I'm not going to do it. But there is... I mean, reading the script you can tell. So yeah, you'll see nudity in it, and at the same time, I don't know what it will be rated, but I'm sure they're going to keep it as close to that borderline as they can without losing more ticket sales, you know? Terry: Did they say anything about maybe doing another one? Was there any talk at all? Jesse: I didn't hear anything to that. Terry: They keep saying, "This is the last one!", and then of course another one comes out. I don't know if they look that far ahead or not. Jesse: Well, you know how it works with movies. It's like a bandwagon, and if you can keep that bandwagon going, I mean, keep it going! So, I'm not sure, but I never heard anything about another one. I didn't even know this one was going to happen, so who knows? I suppose it all depends on how this one works out and if they can keep it going, you know? I mean, can they twist it? Can they change it? Can they make it interesting again? Terry: You know, you're so enthusiastic about the process, I bet that someday you'd like to direct or something, wouldn't you? Jesse: I actually would, yes. Terry: I could sense that, yeah. Jesse: I'm kind of... I really like the technological side of it. I love the prosthetics side of it. I love hanging out by the monitors like on "American Dreams", when I'm not shooting, I'm always behind the monitors watching, and watching Brian the director of photography. I just want to see the camera angles, and I've got my own little video camera there. We (Motions towards Devon) shot a little video yesterday actually at the park. We went out and just played a made up sport that we made up, and we shot this little infomercial like really making fun of it. But we shot this little infomercial! Terry: Sounds like us! (Laughs.) That's what we do! Jesse: (Laughs.) So I've always had it in the back of my head that one day I would like to direct, and I like to draw and do things like that so every once in a while I'll storyboard an idea or I'll write something down, so all of it is really interesting. But I want to focus on acting, and one of these days when I get to the point where I can do that, and I feel that I've had enough experience as an actor to know what's good, I want to give it a whirl, you know? Terry: Yeah. You like doing all types of roles then right? You don't want to be typecasted as one type of character. Jesse: No, I don't always want to be a dickhead, you know? (Laughs.) I mean, I did "Just Cause". He was a nice guy. He's probably the nicest guy I've played yet. Terry: But you don't mind being a teen idol though, right? Jesse: I don't know if I AM a teen idol. I don't think I am. Terry: Sure, you are.. Jimmy Riley! You're headed that way. What if that was what you became, a teen idol? How would you feel about that because a lot of actors don't want to be a type casted as a teen idol, and would rather not work that be considered such. You have a side of you that wants to be popular, but then there's the actor side of you that doesn't want to be a pretty boy. What is more you? Jesse: I hate the phrase pretty boy. Terry: Yeah. Jesse: First of all. (Laughs.) Nothing against you, (Laughs) I just don't like that. No, I love action. I love comedy. I love drama, and drama... I like doing drama. I mean, I love when I get to do something that's a little more deep as all actors and actresses do, I'm sure. But I also love comedy. I want to be able to do comedy and I love action. I mean, absolutely love it! I went to college for outdoor tourism and business so I have a background in all outdoorsy stuff and I just love to do all that stuff. Most of my friends from Vancouver are stunt men, like the stuntman for Clark Kent in "Smallville", he trains at my gymnastics club. We got to train with Ray Park who plays Darth Maul in "Star Wars" for a while. Antonio Banderas' stunt double came and trained with us. Lucy Liu's stunt double came and trained with us. So it's really neat to be able to train with those people. Right now the stunt coordinator of Tom Cruise's new movie which they're doing in New Zealand right now, it's called "The Last Samurai", his name is Lauro Chartrand, he did "Smallville" and now he's doing this movie, and I know him, and he's a great guy. So, it's really neat because one of these days I'll get to work with him again and I'll be at that point hopefully where it's a bigger role, and bigger stunts. Terry: Weren't you supposed to be in "The Last Samurai"? Jesse: I was supposed to audition for the role of Tom Cruise's brother, and I almost went mental because I really really like Tom Cruise's work and I love the movies that he's gotten to do, and I like the roles that he decides to take. Terry: Well we have that in common because I got bumped from the movie too. I was supposed to be an extra and they said that my hair was too short. Jesse: Aww man! Terry: They made me grow a growth (beard) for like two weeks and it was driving me crazy. Then I go in and they're like, "No, you're hair is too short." Jesse: Oh, no way! Aww! Terry: So, you're going to be in a sci-fi film called "The Butterfly Effect", right? Jesse: Yeah, I've heard that that is supposed to be released April, roughly. Terry: What's that about? Jesse: It's kind of based on the butterfly effect theory, in regards to memories. So, Ashton Kutcher's character goes through these memories and... (Waiter comes up.) Waiter! (Laughs.) Everyone's ok! We're ok! (Laughs.) So, where was I? Devon: Go ahead.. back to you! Jesse: No.. no... how are you? How are you guys doing? How is everyone? What was I saying? Terry: Butterfly effect. Jesse: Butterfly effect, yeah. Ashton Kutcher's character basically starts at a young age, so it'll start in his younger years and it kind of shows a few things that have happened in his life. He's kind of blacked out at those points, and he can't remember what happened. Apparently that's true. I did a little bit of research on it, but I'd like to do more, just out of curiosity because apparently these people just black out and they can not remember what happened. They still did it, but they can't remember the actions of what happened while they were doing that certain whatever it was that they were doing. So, (Someone walks up to the table)sorry... I got thrown off wondering who that was. I was like, "Why are they looking at me funny?" (Laughs.) Terry: She's meeting my daughter here because she doesn't know how to get to the club afterwards, so she's coming with us after the interview. Jesse: Oh, ok. Terry: Butterfly effect. Jesse: Sorry. (Chuckles.) Terry: Ashton Kutcher and his character. Jesse: Aston Kutcher... so basically, they forget and he gets older and at that point he's reading back in his journals. When he reads that particular point he manages to remember what happened and it turns out that what happened during those points was really serious. Some really bad things happened, like there's one point where there's an explosion and a little baby's killed and it was their fault. They totally never meant to do that, and it was a complete accident, and he remembers this. As he starts to remember this, he starts to... kind of, you know, he can't hold onto it anymore. He's like, "What am I supposed to do to fix this? I can't live with this." But he still wants to know what happened because there's parts of his memory that he just can't remember. So it's kind of a... Terry: (Girl walks back to table and sits down.) This is Diana. She's one of the extras on "American Dreams" with you. Jesse: Hello. Terry: She's the one that said your face messed up the camera on set the other day when you two were kidding around. Jesse: (Sarcastically.) Oh yeah, yeah. Right. (Chuckles.) This is Devon. Devon: Hi. Jesse: You probably saw her on Wednesday when she came and surprised me. Anywho, so yeah, it has to do with that, and it kind of flops back and forth between these memories that he's been missing, and you kind of find out. There's some graphic things in there, and there's some... I think it will be really neat. It's a really neat storyline. Terry: You really seem to be doing a lot of sci-fi and horror though, do you think that's true, or it just happened that way? Jesse: Yeah, I guess. I guess I actually have something to look at. Terry: See, when you become the new Johnny Depp... Jesse: Noooo! (Laughs.) Terry: ...do not ignore your roots in sci-fi and horror. When is "Freddy Vs. Jason" due out? Jesse: I have no idea. Terry: It's not finished yet, right? Are you done working on it? Jesse: Everything is done shooting. Terry: Oh, everything? Jesse: Shooting's done, but they're probably going to need like a good six to eight months to put it all together and take out cables and do the special effects, because there's a lot of special effects. Terry: What about accidents? Did anyone get hurt on the set? I know Robert has been stabbed several times. Jesse: Yeah, he was telling me little stories about how he's been stabbed. I didn't hear about too many accidents on this set. No, I didn't hear any like... nothing serious. Probably just little things like, "Oh, I slipped and fell." Then of course the stunt guys are always getting bruised up. Devon: (Makes a motion towards herself.) Jesse: What happened? Did you slip? Terry: Do you know of something that happened on set? Devon: No, I slipped and fell! Terry: Ok, what happened? Devon: Oh no, it's just... we were all supposed to be running in this really tight group of people. We were supposed to be running from Jason, and looking back and screaming, and this one girl tripped, and then the girl in front of me tripped over her, and then I tripped over all of them and went flying. Jesse: Oh man! Devon: And I landed on my knees and scraped them up. I ripped my skirt. Jesse: I didn't know that. Devon: And they panned down and filmed it too, and then we got up and kept running. Terry: They filmed it?! Jesse: Jason Voorhees made you trip? Terry: Maybe they'll keep it in and you'll be embarrassed forever! Devon: Yeah that'd be great! Jesse: That'd be neat! Terry: Jesse, I heard you told Tiffany not be rude to her mother & if you talked mean to your mom, she'd hit you. I guess that was the Jimmy Riley part of you coming out. (Laughs.) Jesse: It's true, my mom would hit me. Uh, yeah... oh yeah... (Laughs.) Stop laughing at me! On "American Dreams" this coming Wednesday, there's a drive-in sequence that we're doing and there's supposed to be like twenty to thirty cars so all the old cars... that'll be really neat. And we're watching a movie and there's a big dance sequence. I'm in the car and I'm restless, and I'm talking to Meg and she's watching the movie, not paying attention to me. I'm trying to get all Jimmy Riley suave and she's just, "Uh huh, uh huh. Yeah, uh huh." Then she kind of realizes that I'm sitting there, watching her, and we're about to kiss. Then someone bangs on the window, and they're like... everyone's like dancing, right? Everyone's jumping out of their cars and they're dancing like in the movie, and it's supposed to be like this kind of musical sequence. Anyway, she's (Devon) going to be the one that comes up and bangs on the window. Terry: All right! There you go! Jesse: So hopefully, she doesn't break the window and pull me out of the car! "What are you doing?!?" (Laughs.) Terry: You can be the one that kicks his butt! Jesse: The director's like, "Well, uh, Jimmy Riley's getting punched in the face for real. What's going on?!?"(Laughs.) Terry: Did you ever feel, just as a joke, when you're supposed to kiss Brittany, or Meg her character, like laying one on her, just to see what she'd do? Jesse: Noooo, I've never actually thought of that. Terry: I shouldn't say that in front of Devon. Devon: (Laughs.) Jesse: It's funny, because I don't know if people think it's this intimate thing, but it's not. Terry: Yeah, it's not. Jesse: It's so non anything... Terry: It's more of a business thing with Jimmy Riley, right? Jesse: ...it's like... You're more worried about your lines and everything, then you are... When we do rehearsals, it's like, "Ok, I'm going to say this and then... and then kiss... and then I've got to turn the lights off." We did that in a car, and I had to kiss her in this episode, and it's just so non personal at all. It's so business oriented that it's weird. You're just like, "Yeah, whatever." You say your lines, kiss each other, and then, "Ok, cut!" Terry: Well it would be all business because you're very content. You have a gorgeous girlfriend here. You have nothing to worry about. Jesse: I have nothing to worry about! Terry: That's right. Devon: (Laughs.) Terry: It's all cool. Jesse: It's true. I mean, I like it more now in a way because if something like that is in the script, I'll be reading and be like, "Oh, I have to phone Devon and let her know that I have to kiss somebody." Just like out of respect. I mean, I want her to know. Terry: Well, I know my daughter told me that the talk amongst the extras is like, "Oh yeah man, he looks really good." You know? Jesse: Oh? Terry: Do you get a lot of that? Jesse: No. Terry: No, you just don't know about it. It's there. (Laughs.) Jesse: Well, maybe you guys could talk and let her (Devon) know what's going on there. Devon: (Nods like she already knows.) Terry: See, she knows. Jesse: Yeah, well you know what? It goes the opposite way too. When she surprised me on set, people come up to me like Tom. He comes up, fixes my clothes, he's like, "Is that your girlfriend? Woooo!" He's like, "How much you paying her?" I'm like, "OH!" (Laughs.) Terry: Oh! Oh my God! (Laughs.) Devon: No, anytime any of my friends meet him or I show them like pictures or stuff, like to all my family... my aunt is like, "Oh, he's SO handsome. Oh he's dreamy!" Terry: There you go. Jesse: I pay them too! (Laughs.) Devon: "Oh, he's pretty!" Terry: Do they get "American Dreams" Canada? Jesse: Oh yeah, they get "American Dreams". Terry: They do? Jesse: Yep. Same time. Same channel. Terry: What about being recognized? Are you ever recognized on the street by anybody for anything you've done? Jesse: Jimmy Riley is usually, I think, a hard character to recognize. Sometimes, when I first started shooting the series, I came back to work once and I was growing my hair for some auditions and it was all shagged out and I didn't shave, and came in. I'm saying hi to camera guys, you know, and they're like, "Yeah yeah yeah, whatever. Who's that guy?" Then I go in and I get shaved, and they cut my hair, and come back, and they're like, "HEY Jimmy Riley!" I'm like, "I said hi to you on the way in. You didn't say anything!" They're like, "That was you?" So some people don't recognize me. I think you have to really look. I mean, I watch myself sometimes and I'm like, "What?" Devon: What about at the airport that time? Jesse: Oh, the airport! (Laughs.) That's a.. that's not that good! Devon: I liked it. Jesse: Ok, I'm a Canadian, so I've got to go through customs. I've got my papers now, so it's no big deal, but they like to, you know, rape you. (Fake cough.) Excuse me. (Laughs.) So I get up there and I'm like, "Oh, oh God. Please don't let this be... I just want to get on the plane. I just want to go to sleep. I just want to get there and work." So I'm waiting in line. They're like, "Next please..." They're like the most strictest people in the world. They're like, "NEXT!" and you're like, "Oh GOD! (Laughs.) No, that person looks nicer!" But no, they're all mean. So I go up there... Terry: Ask me about the guys at the Canadian border sometime... but go ahead. Jesse: Ohhh! Terry: Well, we kind of crashed the border though. My wife didn't know we had to stop and she drove right through the border where you're supposed to stop. Jesse: WHAT!?! Terry: And the bells went off and... Jesse: You drove through!?! What, are you crazy?! You're lucky you're alive. They would've sicked the beavers on you. (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) Jesse: Flying beavers! We have them! They fly! You're in your car, and you're like, "AHHHHH!" (Laughs.) Terry: It was so dark. There was no lights at the beginning of the border, or anything. It was pitch dark, and we just kept on cruising. Jesse: The Mounties wear red! Terry: No, there wasn't anybody in there at all! Until we went through it. Then the lights went on and all these people came out. Jesse: Oh my gosh! Terry: They sent us back. They wouldn't let us stay. Jesse: Wow. Terry: They asked for I.D.s. They asked where we were going. They looked through the trunk. Jesse: Oh my gosh! Terry: So we went back, and the guy on the other side was like, "Didn't make it did you?" I was like, "Yeah, you've got a beautiful country, eh?" Jesse: OH! Snap! Terry: But anyway, you're thing through customs. What happened? Jesse: So anyway, I get up.. and this is at the airport, so I'm not driving through. I get up to the customs lady and she's like, "Papers please." So I hand her all the papers. I'm being all nice. I don't want to say anything. She reaches out with this little book... like, just this little green book and she leans in. She's like, "Are you on that show 'American Dreams'?" I'm thinking, "Is this a trick question?" (Laughs.) I'm like, "Uh, yeah." She's like, "Can I get you to sign this book?" I'm like, "Ok. Is this your little autograph book?" She's like, "Yeah! Look at this one! I got this one here from this guy..." I was like, "Ok, what do you want me to say?" She says, "I don't care." So, I'm like, "Ok, what's your name?" I write it to her and she's like, "Oh, so what's it like to work with Joseph Lawrence?" I was like, "Oh you know, he's a pretty nice guy." Then she's like, "Oh, what about this person... and what about the clothes..." My planes going to be leaving soon so it almost turned out just as bad because she's like, "Ohhh!" and she's getting all giddy. It's weird to see this stern lady getting all giddy, and she's like, "Thank you so much!" I'm like, "Well, you know, enjoy the show." She's like, "Oh, I'll probably never see it again." I'm like, "Oh, where are you going?" She's like, "Well, I'm leaving tomorrow. Going on vacation." I'm like, "Where are you going?" She's said, "Hawaii!" I said, "How long?" She's like, "Forever!" (Laughs.) I'm like, "Oh really!" So she just left, but I mean, I never had a problem getting through. Terry: Wow. Jesse: I did "Taken", the Steven Spielberg series, just as like a really small role and... Terry: That's the UFO abduction series right? Jesse: Yeah, the whole ten made for TV movies, and my whole part is only probably like 3 to 5 minutes, if that, but I had one of the guys who works on "American Dreams" come up to me. He was working this week and he came up, and he recognized me from that. That blew me away because I never expected anyone to remember me from that. But it was very visual... like, it was really visual, and I basically die in it. That's also science fiction. Terry: You see to die a lot in movies and TV! Jesse: Yeah! I guess it's not a bad way to go, you know? I guess you get a little bit of respect in that. Terry: I take it you don't mind being recognized, and having people coming up to say hi? Jesse: No, it's not that bad really. It's not like I'm Tom Cruise or anything. People don't really come up to me out of nowhere, and be like, "OH Ohhh OH!!" and freak out! So, no. I don't know what it'll be like, or if it'll ever get like that. Terry: Oh it will. How would you handle it since you even thought it was weird seeing the customs lady get all giddy? Jesse: I think I'll handle it pretty well. I mean, I'm just going to be who I am, and that's it. I speak for Model Search America, I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that, but I speak on the panel for them in regards to acting, and I explain to them kind of the same thing that I've explained to you. What I do. How I got here. Just words of like, advice and stuff, and I answer people's question, because there's a lot of people trying to get going in the business and I love to be able to help them as much as I can. I'm still learning. I'll always be learning, but to be able to talk to people, and tell them what I think, and give them advice is just as important to me as my acting. So I really like when people come up to me and want to talk to me, and I'm just going to be myself. I don't want to end up some egotistical balloon. Terry: That's because you're Canadian. Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: No, seriously, Canadians are the most down to earth people compared to people from the United States. You know, as far as celebrity wise, people from Canada are very grounded about everything. Jesse: Who else have you interviewed from Canada? Terry: The Kids in the Hall. I've met Michael J. Fox. Jesse: Oh yeah? Terry: Yeah, stuff like that. Jesse: Oh, I love Michael J. Fox. Yeah, I'm really sorry about what happened to him. He had so much energy, and he still has it. You can still see it in his eyes, even though. Terry: So you didn't do Canadian television over there? It was just basically movie? Jesse: No, other than a few musicals in high school and one in public school. I mean, I love movies though. I've always been interested in movies. I watch movies all the time. I don't even like watching TV. I don't! I hate watching TV to be honest with you but I watch it just so I know... Terry: What about watching yourself? Jesse: That's new. That's definitely different to get used to. The first time I saw... I don't like sound of my voice. I hate the sound of my voice on like, a tape recorder. I hate it on TV, but I can't do anything about it, so I just, whatever! Watching myself has become... at first it was like, "Oh my gosh. Look at me.. I look..." but now it's more about what I'm actually doing. How I'm saying things. How I'm acting. How it all comes across. I'm trying to remember what I thought on the day that I shot that, and is that how it came across? Is that what people view it as? Because sometimes you'll do a scene, and you know, I'll be thinking one thing and it'll come across to other people who watch it totally different. Like, when I did that scene when I got hit in the face for "American Dreams", I played that really angry. I was... I just told Brittany that I really wasn't going to talk to her that much because sometimes when you do a scene like that we just have to... Terry: That's right. Jesse: ..tell everyone else that, "Ok, I need to kind of be really pissed off here." So I just had to be pissed off that day and I was really pissed off. Usually I talk to everyone. I like to talk to Jules, the woman who does my make-up, Soojin who does my hair. I like to talk to Tony the camera man, Scott Foler, Scott Steele, the O.P., everybody! But I was like, "Ok guys, I'm just not going to talk." I just kept being pissed off and I thought of everything I could to just be angry at her! But some people when they watch it, they say it comes across and it's not as angry as I thought it was. That's all part of the learning process. Terry: So you're still not going to tell me who wins, Freddy or Jason, huh? Jesse: (Laughs.) That would totally... Terry: See, now we've gotten to know each other a little better. Jesse: That would totally wreck the film though. I don't want to tell you. Terry: The magazine may not come out before the film. Jesse: And there was also different endings written. Terry: Did they film different endings? Jesse: I'm sure.. yeah, I know they filmed it, and they also asked us too when we did the table read, "What do you guys think?" Terry: Oh, they actually asked your input? Jesse: So, we were like, "Well, you know, this one feels kind of cool. But what if this happened, or what if that? You know?" Terry: It's hard to say because they're going to tick off one group of fans one way or the other. Jesse: Yeah. Terry: Frankenstein Vs. the Wolfman, or King Kong Vs. Godzilla... Jesse: It's true. Terry: ...Over in Japan, Godzilla won, over here, King Kong won. Jesse: Yeah, that's true. You know, what are they going to do? And we don't know. (Laughs.) Terry: No, you know, you're just not telling! (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Terry: So you said you were going to show me some pictures from the set? Jesse: Yeah, yeah. Basically, not only for the head cast, but for anything they do on your body to cast anything for prosthetics is... it's called an alginate and it's basically a Jell-O like substance. So the alginate basically comes in powder form. They know how much they're going to need. You know, it depends on what they're doing... an arm, a leg, a head. So for the head, they always do from your head to down to pretty much just below your chest. You can kind of see what they do. You basically sit in a chair. You try and keep your back as straight as you can and they put something over your head. It's basically a piece of rubber, and they tape it over your hair because alginate really sticks to hair. Big time! It hurts when they rip it off. You're like, "AHHHH!" (Laughs.) It's like a wax job. Basically they put this alginate on and within six minutes it's going to start to take an impression of whatever it's on. So if it's on your arm, it's going to start to take an impression of your pores, the hair, everything. They put the alginate over your face and when it gets to that point, they yell at you for you to go into your pose. They may want you to just stay relaxed and keep a normal face. They may want you with your mouth open, screaming. They'll let you know that prior to the alginate process, obviously, because it's all time. So, you go into that face and you have to hold it for about two... three.. four minutes if possible, and then after that the alginate is pretty much at a state where it's already taken the impression that it's going to take. What they do then is they take gypsona... it's called gypsona... it's the same stuff that they use for casts. So if you break your leg, they put gypsona on you, and this (Shows picture) is a picture of me with the gypsona on. You can see right here, there's kind of a split down the center. They do it in the front, and they do it in the back. So, basically, it takes three people to do this whole process, and total it takes about 25 to 35 minutes for this whole process. Terry: When they take this off of you and you go home, I imagine it's still on you here and there, right? Jesse: They're pretty good with cleaning you up when they're done. You still feel... basically they cover you with Vaseline especially if you have hair there. Obviously, I got hair here and there, so you know, my chest hair is vaselined. They put it in your ears a little bit. They pretty much cover your skin because then it won't stick as much and it won't rip their job. Once this alginate is done, they put the gypsona on, and you'll see that it's split into two sections. So, they have the front half and they have the back half, and then they wait for the gypsona to harden. Then it's like solid rock. It's like this table. (Knocks on table.) It's just like a cast. What they do then is they pry it apart, and they take the back off. Then they take a butter knife and they cut the rubber kind of down in an X shape, and then they peel it open. You lean forward at the hips, and you've got to pull your face out. And it's pretty air suctioned in there so you're like (Makes suction noise), and your face is all contorted. There's funny sounds, and they're like, "Come on, pull it up!" There's like three people trying to pull it off! (Laughs.) By this point, you haven't seen light. You're eyes have been closed, so you're like (Blinks.)... as if you just woke up. Terry: You suddenly respect Robert much more! Jesse: Yeah! The funny thing was for this movie they told me that total I did 16 and a half hours of prosthetics for this role, and I did more than Robert Englund did. Terry: Really? Wow! Jesse: Apparently, I did the most of anyone in the movie according to WCT Productions in Vancouver. Bill Terazakis, he's the head man there. Great guy. Hilarious! You've got to have a humor to do what he does, for sure. So anyway, they take that off, and then you pull your face out, and they put it back on. Kind of glue up the seam where they cut it in the back. Put the gypsona back over the alginate. Flip it upside down. Pour clay in it. Wait till that's hard. Rip that off, and then they have a clay, solid rock, replica of whatever they just took of you. From that, they can just keep making copies, and they'll also make a Styrofoam one. They just fill it up with Styrofoam and then they have a light one. They gave me a copy of a silicone face. My face like this (Points to picture.) but it's silicone. It's flat on the bottom so I can slap it onto the wall. I can put it on my coffee table. (Laughs.) It's pretty freaky. Terry: Something to show your grandchildren. Jesse: But, for this process, the one part where remember I told you I was going to be walking with a broken leg? Terry: Right. Jesse: For this part, you see that strap right there (Points to picture.), that's actually a come along strap. The ones that, you know, you wind down. So they lifted up my leg and they actually buckled my leg. I couldn't feel it. There was no blood in it. I had to stand on one leg while they did a casting from my chest down. This same process, alginate, gypsona. So, you've got to wait till the alginate is at the point, then you've got to put the gypsona on. Wait till it's hard. The gypsona gets really warm because they use warm water. The alginate is done with cold water. The gypsona's done with warm water, or really hot water. So, you start to sweat after a while. Especially when they do a full body! (Shows more pictures.) This is just me eating some Doritos at lunch. Terry: I take it you wouldn't smell to well after having that all on you either, would you? Jesse: You smell weird. The alginate actually tastes kind of minty. Terry: Really? Jesse: Because, well, I get it in my mouth sometimes, and I get it like behind my ears, but you smell it. It has like a mint smell in it because one the chemicals that's in it... none of it's bad for you, so you don't have to worry about like dying or anything... Terry: They tell you that, right? (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Oh, totally. But I've done so much of it and you could why I would be cold because all I can really wear is that (Points to clothes in picture.). Terry: Sure. Jesse: Shorts and a ripped up T-shirt. So right here (Points to pictures.) you can see them doing my arms, and basically I just wanted a time when I could lay there. Don't move. Stay still. This is them doing my legs. They do one leg at a time. Just random photos. You can see a little bit of pain in my eyes here when they're ripping it off. They kind of caught some leg hair here on that one. Terry: If somebody didn't know what this was they'd be like, "What the hell is this?" Jesse: Yeah, they actually put saran wrap over you, and I'm not actually crapping myself. (Laughs.) They put saran wrap over sometimes because sometimes all they do is rather than the alginate, they just use the gypsona to get... because they did a gysona cast from my neck down to my knees so that that once they get all the silicone parts, they can put it together so it'll be to scale with my body so that they don't offset a leg by three inches or something. So, they cover you, and it's rather embarrassing, and we'll just look through that really quick. Yeah, it's rather embarrassing to be saran wrapped, covered in Vaseline, and standing there. Terry: It's like, "I am Zoolander, male model!" Jesse: Basically they put this thing here (Points to a rod propping up his hands) so that I don't lose blood in my arms, but they're saran wrapped to the thing, so I can't even go anywhere. It's like, "Ok, I'll stay there." and that's it! I was probably standing like that for probably 45 minutes, having a great time as you can see. Here you can see where it's just the gypsona cast, and you can see how tough it is. My neck's not even moving. They reinforce it so it's not going to fall apart. Terry: And you're still smiling! Jesse: Oh, well they're really fun about it! You know, when you can't move... Terry: Oh, it's fun! (Laughs.) Jesse: They're such a funny group. Once I'm stuck like this they'll come up, and one guy like spit on me! I was like, "AHHHHHH!" (Laughs.) He wouldn't even wipe it off. It's like dripping and I'm like "Crap!" Terry: They're funny because they go home and they're laughing, "Guess what we did to this guy today?" Jesse: So, I'm trying to spit on them. I'm like (Makes spitting noises.)... They're like behind me. Terry: It's almost like a Steve Martin expression here in this photo. Jesse: Steve Martin. (Laughs.) Well, plus it's heavy. I'm basically wearing a full body cast, so I start shaking after a while. I'm like, "Oh.. uh..." and it gets really hot so the heat's just pouring out, and you start sweating really bad. It actually gets to the point where you feel like you're going to burn sometimes. So, they do that, and then they rip it off of you, and you know, there's me lying on the ground. (Laughs.) There I am. This is a picture of me with some of my special effects make-up done for the corn field scene. Terry: You look much older! Jesse: In "Freddy Vs. Jason"? Terry: You look almost like Chris Kattan in a way. Devon: That was what he looked like the first time I saw him. Jesse: The first time I met my girlfriend, I looked like this! So, you can tell I'm not a very happy character. Terry: How did that do that to your eyes? Contacts? Jesse: Yeah, I went in and got specially fitted for contacts. They're really thick and they had veins built into them. They're the size of my entire eyeball, the white part, so I went in and they measured them and everything. Terry: Did they bother you at all? Jesse: Well, I didn't even touch them. They had a specialist on set all the time who put them in and took them out. It's the same as regular liquid that you would put in for your contacts, solution, but it's super thick. So, they put it in and it would wave across your eyes sometimes. Since they're yellow tinted, sometimes you'd be sitting there, and it's like this wave of yellow would go by... and I'd be like, "Whoa!" So, I started to feel like I could see stuff, in some freaky evil way. (Laughs.) Terry: Could you see through them? Jesse: Yeah, I could see. Yeah. Terry: Really clear? Jesse: Yeah, I could still see but sometimes it was so thick that everything would be a little mumbo jumbled. But, we tried to get a close up on the contacts. Terry: (Looks at another picture.) Jesse: Oh, that's from "Just Cause". Totally separate. Terry: (To Devon) So are you ready to do some of this stuff? Devon: Wow, I don’t know! It'd be a challenge. It'd be interesting. Jesse: That's just pictures of my trailer. Terry: Would that be the Freddy trailer or "American Dreams" trailer? Jesse: That's "Freddy Vs. Jason" trailer. This is another friend of mine that I worked with on the movie. Dave Cobb. He plays my best friend in the episode, so that was pretty cool. This is us pretending to fart. (Laughs.) Terry: (Laughs.) Devon: Which episode are you talking about? What episode? Jesse: Which episode? Oh, this is "Freddy Vs. Jason". Devon: Oh, ok. Jesse: Sorry. (Laughs.) Just another picture of me in the chair with the skull cap on. I guess that's pretty much it. Terry: Amazing. Jesse: I just have some bigger blow up photos which strictly.. the only people who have seen these are basically the people who printed them out, and me, so I'm sure you'll get a kick out of this because you're all gung ho. There's your friend Jason Voorhees. Terry: Oh, wow! And that's not the original Jason, Kane Hodder, right? Jesse: No, no this is Ken Kirzinger. It's almost... (Shows a picture of a dead body.) Terry: This... this is not you, right? Jesse: Yeah. That's me for real but they have another one that they can put in there, and you probably wouldn't even notice the difference. Terry: Really? Jesse: Except if you looked at it really close and you noticed the skin pigmentation. I showed someone recently, and it's almost like art, they said. They explained it as art, the way it looks. Terry: Yeah, it's beautiful. Jesse: It is really weird. I had so much blood on me that day, it was like running down my butt crack, and it was dripping off my toes. (Laughs.) Well this is what happens to me in the beginning. (Points to corn field picture.) This is me later on. Terry: So you get killed early on and then you come back in the end possessed. Is that what it is? Jesse: Yeah, sorta. Yeah. Half way through it I come back, and then technically Freddy Kruger is in me at that point. I really like that picture. Terry: Alright. If we keep talking to him we'll be able to piece it together! (Laughs.) Jesse: (Laughs.) Hey, that's the fun part! Terry: And that's when Freddy wins in the end of the movie, right? (Laughs.) Jesse: ANYWAY... (Laughs.) This is just another photo of me in the corn field. The closest close up that I've ever done was on "Freddy Vs. Jason", and it takes place in this boiler room, just outside of the corn field, and they brought the camera up and actually took the lens apart, and put an eyeline with a little piece of tape inside the camera. The camera was almost touching my nose. It was probably like two inches from my nose. When I whispered like this, it would fog up the lens, so I'm really afraid to see this because that's going to be... the entire movie screen is going to be my ugly face. I've never seen myself in that big of a close up before, so it's going to be like, "Ahhh, ohhh!" (Laughs.) Terry : What do you think is next for Freddy or Jason? Jesse : Oh, I guess Freddy Goes to Disneyland, maybe! (Laughs.) =END OF INTERVIEW=